tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9263167.post3023146097163022767..comments2024-03-28T15:17:43.056-04:00Comments on Stayin' Alive: I'm not going to talk about politics,Cervanteshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11302076828795198187noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9263167.post-34443493395606500222011-04-13T08:21:21.417-04:002011-04-13T08:21:21.417-04:00WHO called for halting antibiotics > livestock ...WHO called for halting antibiotics > livestock in ..1977! (for the same reasons Chan is giving today.) <br /><br />IN CH, hormones and antibiotics to stimulate growth are forbidden. Other antibiotic use is curtailed, reported, studied, etc. I’m not clear on the precise rules and a little googling shows me that officially it is much of a muddle (endless questions from ‘parliament’ with somewhat strange answers), this is a topic for a top expert in that field, which I am not.<br /><br />One kilo (2.2 pounds) of prime beef costs 111 dollars. <br /><br />Beef imports, about 20% of total consumption, only come from Uruguay, Ireland (prime sirloin) and France - all imports have to be certified as conforming to Swiss legislation and I suppose not many can be bothered with it all. <br /><br />Some lamb is imported from Ireland, France, New Zealand and Australia. Lamb chops or rack of lamb go from 62 dollars a kilo to about 100 dollars depending on provenance, quality, etc. <br /><br />For comparison purposes, I buy ‘farm chicken’ (whole) - no antibiotics at all, grain fed, free range, and delicious for 24 dollars a kilo. <br /><br />Ordinary apples, carrots and cabbage are in the range of 1 to 6 dollars per kg. Supermarket has a bag to fill with ‘low price, ordinary vege and fruit’ for 10 dollars, in which the canny can cram 3 kgs. or more, provided you stick leek coming out of the top, which is allowed, the bag need not be closed. <br /><br />Here we also eat ostrich, bison, goat, deer, elk, horse, and rabbit (mostly locally produced, though we get rabbit from Poland, goat from France, for ex.) and various game e.g. boar, pheasant. This diversity seems to me to be a good thing - small(er) producers can go for what suits their inclination, capacities, terrain, climate, etc. <br /><br />I am not a big meat eater, I was just pointing out that producing veal- beef, pork and lamb with *some* (and only some, but it includes surveillance) limitations as to antibiotic use multiplies the price by 4 at least. And that is it is perfectly possible to do it, it leads to change in consumer habits, diversification, and the partial giving up of industrial agri. <br /><br />AnaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9263167.post-78034818810773729742011-04-08T11:38:04.386-04:002011-04-08T11:38:04.386-04:00humankind must take concerted, cooperative, ration...humankind must take concerted, cooperative, rational steps to avoid disaster? <br /><br />as tactfully as possible i say, hahahahahahahaha.<br /><br />looked at from a different perspective, the germs might help us reduce our population.rogerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14554961854201609452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9263167.post-79391073775168153782011-04-08T11:30:51.823-04:002011-04-08T11:30:51.823-04:00We have been spending quite a bit of time in hospi...We have been spending quite a bit of time in hospitals and nursing homes lately, while Roger's mom recovers from pneumonia, which she picked up from one of her dining companions at the assisted living facility where we warehouse old people. The hospital is a surprisingly unclean place. We hated being there and used their creepy antiseptic sprays and wipes every chance we could get. I wanted to dip myself in bleach and alcohol when I got home, but settled for washing my hands with the hottest water I could stand, and drinking a glass of wine.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com