Map of life expectancy at birth from Global Education Project.

Thursday, May 30, 2019

The personal and the political

When we engage in political discourse in the United States, we confront a fundamental problem. I will outsource much of this discussion to Norm Ornstein, a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, which as you may know is a conservative think tank. First:

[H]owever awkward it may be for the traditional press and nonpartisan analysts to acknowledge, one of the two major parties, the Republican Party, has become an insurgent outlier — ideologically extreme; contemptuous of the inherited social and economic policy regime; scornful of compromise; unpersuaded by conventional understanding of facts, evidence, and science; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition. When one party moves this far from the center of American politics, it is extremely difficult to enact policies responsive to the country’s most pressing challenges.
I might add -- as Ornstein does elsewhere -- that the party mobilizes racism, homophobia, misogyny, and other forms of prejudice as a fundamental electoral strategy. Here's Gilad Edelman:

[R]ecognizing the rising tide of white extremism means grappling with its origins, and that in turn would require American conservatives to deal with their own complicity. The Republican Party is now run by people, including the President and members of Congress, who endorse conspiracy theories about, for example, George Soros paying Central American migrants to “storm” the United States border and vote in our elections. The party’s full-time propaganda network, Fox News, devotes its primetime programming to whipping up its viewers’ fears of a migrant “invasion” stoked by Democrats.
And, one might well add, the current occupant of the office of president of the United States got his start promoting the racist lie that Barack Obama was ineligible to be president because he was born in Kenya, and then announced his candidacy with a racist screed about Mexicans.
 
So, here is the difficulty. People don't like to be accused of racism, even when they are in fact racist. People don't like to be accused of ignorance, even when they are in fact ignorant. So what are we to do?  I do not denigrate the personhood of people with whom I disagree. However, I do have to tell it like I see it. Nobody can approve of Donald Trump's performance in office without implicitly endorsing racism, ignorance, lies, authoritarianism, extremism, misogyny, and incitement to violence. If you don't want to be called a racist, don't be a racist. If you don't want to be called ignorant, learn something. If you don't want to be accused of condoning violence, don't condone violence.

Sorry, but Donald J. Trump is an evil, repulsive, profoundly sick human being, who represents what the Republican Party and the conservative movement have become. Anybody who can't see that has a problem that I will not refrain from identifying.

Update: I'm not going to publish comments that completely ignore what I actually wrote and make irrelevant, straw man arguments (which are in themselves idiotic). If you want to respond to anything I have ever actually said, go ahead.

Update II: I've said it many times but I will now add it to the side bar. Comments under the name "anonymous" or "unknown" will not be published, no matter how cogent or wise. Choose a unique handle and stick to it if you want your comments published.

16 comments:

Don Quixote said...

And let us all say, Amen.

Unless we're evangelical Christians, rabidly right-wing, or fundamentally ignorant and hateful, in which case we can all cry, "It's an attempted coup against our savior, Donald Trump!"

But that would be delusional. And it is.

As are: denial of human-caused climate change; denigration of women and denial of their civil rights; anti-Arab sentiments; anti-semitism; the full-time occupation of people like Donald Trump, which is keeping their collective foot inserted into the collective ass of African-American people, whom they fear and feel guilty about, their ancestors having enslaved, raped, killed and abused them; the worship of greed and capitalism; and taking the stance of "pro-life" when we mean "pro-birth," being solely about controlling and dominating women.

mojrim said...

What must be remembered in all this is: this is neither new nor accidental.

The GOP is a law firm representing billionaires. To further their goals it has recruited the Right, a loose mass of voters with diverse SES and political interests, and programmed them with over 30 years of agitprop. This programming is both diversionary (billionaires didn't steal your dream, it was those people) and organizing (abortion is murder and we're going to stop it). Nowhere in the feed is the GOP's actual political program mentioned. The GOP and it's clients neither believe nor care about most of these issues, while on some (e.g. illegal immigration) they are diametrically opposed. That's why, despite the rhetoric, nothing ever really got done. Like race itself, these were all prestidigitations to keep the rubes in line.

At least, it didn't. Since the crash and burn of The Shrub Administration we have seen the true believers seize power, first at the state level, then in the house. They haven't penetrated the senate quite yet, but only because of how it's elected and the amount of money the donors can pour into traditional candidates (e.g. McTurtle). This came as a surprise to many but it should not have - Little Red State Fundie & Co spent the previous decade building a deep bench of ideologically correct politicians from county dog catcher upward. Finally, after 30 years of Rush Limbaugh shitting in their skulls, they have seized the reigns of the party. Now the white shoe lawyers of the firm (lookin at you, Lindsey) are toeing the line to stay employed. The real story of 2016 isn't the general election, it's the GOP primary. People who talk about the mean income of Trump voters being above the median are missing the point - it was the angry, medicare dependant trailer dwellers who got him nominated.

So, what's my point? That the Orange Shitgibbon is neither sui generis nor uniquely horrible in actual politics. Unlimited support for Israel and the Al Saud Crime Family? Check. War with Iran? Check. Racism as an electoral and economic tool? Check. Am I missing anything?

Cervantes said...

You aren't missing much except they have penetrated the Senate, and also the treason element. And the obliviousness (or co-conspiracy) of the corporate media. Probably a few more important points we could make. It will take a while for historians to fully tell this story, if there are any real historians left.

Don Quixote said...

Oy vey, Mojrim. All too well-put. I agree with all of what you've written. It is so ineffably horrible to realize that people who are THAT mentally ill are running things.

One thing: I believe the American system set up in the Constitution was intended to concentrate and hold power in the hands of rich Caucasian men, and that is what it does. It was transparently so done (three-fifths compromise). I have little respect left for the founders, who were hypocrites and racists. The fact that they were willing to die for what they believed in separates them from the current oligarchy (the deferment kings). It all continued on into the pre-Civil War compromises and the death of Reconstruction under the racist president Johnson. And it continues to this day with the support of the hateful and ignorant. Same country. I know there are many enlightened people but, apparently, not enough.

Don Quixote said...

The below article is chilling, in both its naming of the founding of the US as a genocide, and in its illumination of the current criminal administration's literal ripping apart of would-be immigrant families at the borders:

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/11/americas-founding-myths/

Dr Porkenheimer said...


Mr. mojrim just proves my point in that the left believes that the half of the country who voted for Trump and the Republicans are just stupid and foolish.

That's an unlikely answer.

And I don't profess to understand everyone's motivation. For instance, I'm not passionate about the abortion issue, either way. I find it fascinating to watch the legal and political process play out, but I'm not out there marching with a sign.

Rather than assign some unspoken conspiratorial reasons as Mr mojrim has done. I'm more inclined to simply ask someone why they feel the way they do.

That truth is much, much more likely.

Cervantes said...

Well Dr. P, pollsters have asked them. They're racist.

"White support for welfare plummets when respondents are led to believe that the sociopolitical standing of nonwhites is increasing relative to their own, according to recent research. A 2017 study found that Trump supporters were more likely to oppose a housing-assistance policy when it was advertised using the face of a black man rather than a white man.

Broadening the scope, when Trayvon Martin was killed in 2012, cries for justice were largely trans-partisan. Then President Obama said that the slain 17-year-old could have been his son. Suddenly, a conservative smear campaign was underway to cast the teen as a thug who deserved what he got. Neither violent rioting nor peaceful protests have much endeared black people demanding equal rights to most white Americans. From Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. to Colin Kaepernick, even the most inoffensive demonstrations have been met with majoritarian rebuke.

And that is to say nothing of the Trump supporters who are openly racist. Polling from Reuters–Ipsos in 2016 indicated that roughly 40 percent of Trump supporters thought black people were lazier than white people, while closer to half thought blacks were more violent and criminal. Between such flagrant bigots, the more pragmatically racist opponents of social services that they believe help black people more than them, and the white voters driven to embrace Trump simply because they dislike hearing about structural disadvantage, it seems unlikely that Democrats comparing modern conditions to Jim Crow is a major problem driving their support for the president."

Dr Porkenheimer said...


The tremendous amount of swing voters that had voted for President Obama in the previous election and then turned to elect Trump in 2016 tells a different story than the NYM and NYT narrative.


Cervantes said...

yes there were some, though a small minority of Trump voters. However, actual research shows that Trump voters were driven by racism and sexism:

"In the journal Political Science Quarterly, Schaffner and his colleagues note that a significant split between the preferences of highly educated and less-educated white voters is a relatively new phenomenon. . . .

While the economic variables in our models were significantly associated with vote choice, those effects were dwarfed by the relationship between hostile sexism and denial of racism and voting for Trump," the researchers report. "Moving from one end of the sexism scale to the other was associated with more than a 30-point increase in support for Trump among the average likely voter. The relationship for the denial-of-racism scale was nearly identical. Moving from the highest levels of acknowledgement and empathy for racism to the lowest level was associated with about a 30-point increase in support for Trump."

And there's plenty more where that came from.

Dr Porkenheimer said...


Well the research the article links to is behind a paywall, but I'll take your word for it.

So what you're describing is correlation, not causation. They use the word "association".

Even if further research says race and sex matters to them, do you want to stoically continue to lose elections by demonizing these voters...comforted in the knowledge that you're better than them?

These cultural issues are probably the most important issues for Democrats because they've been winning issues in the past. Now, not so sure.

Attitudes seem to have changed lately as the definitions of racism and sexism have become more inclusive and fluid.



Cervantes said...

Err, there's no paywall. I linked to a secondary report precisely so you would have access. Correlation does not prove causation but the strength of causal inference from observational studies depends on a lot of factors, one of which is can you think of a plausible confounder that's the real explanation?

Look, I don't point at individuals and say "you're a racist." I condemn racism. If people see it in themselves then rather than react defensively they should do some soul searching. I'm not going to stop condemning racism and sexism because I think it will turn off some voters. There's no sense getting elected in order to carry out policies you oppose. You might as well lose in that case.

Dr Porkenheimer said...


Racism, today, seems to be in the eye of the beer-holder.

And, like it or not, there's a huge amount of people that don't see it the way you do.

Don Quixote said...

Dr. P., you are good at saying nothing. I quote you: "And, like it or not, there's a huge amount of people that don't see it the way you do." In other words, if most people think the Sun revolves around the Earth, then that's what matters.

Your so-called logic is fallacious and specious. What's your point--let's live in racism and ignorance because many Americans think it doesn't exist? Ever heard of "education"? Are you against it?

Let's do nothing about catastrophic, anthropogenic global warming because many people deny it?

People love science when they land in the hospital with appendicitis or lymphoma. Well, it's the same science that proves man-induced climate change. You don't get to pick and choose.

As for racism--a terrible term, because there's only one human race--it's the basis of the founding of the US by the founding fathers. Like you, they were hypocrites.

Here's the reality, Dr. P.: https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=979&ei=e6DyXLmCAozKswW6uZDACg&q=picture+of+earth+from+voyager+spacecraft&oq=picture+of+earth+from+voyager&gs_l=img.1.0.0l4j0i5i30j0i8i30l2.728.6864..8139...3.0..0.157.2497.31j1......0....1..gws-wiz-img.....0..0i24.Wc73713RUx4#imgrc=rNSmZHTbVAcrbM:

You and all of us are so fucking insignificant. Get over yourself and choose education and equality of humans over Caucasian Superiority Syndrome. We might as well be as happy and loving as possible while we're here.

Dr Porkenheimer said...


So, if you'r discussing politics...yeah, that's all that matters.



Cervantes said...

Well, that's Cokie's rule -- it doesn't matter if it's true, it's "out there." I am still of the opinion that truth matters in the end.

Dr Porkenheimer said...

I wholeheartedly agree.

They are two different things.

So, pick one to discuss.